Creative Destruction

November 27, 2006

Depths of Depravity

Filed under: Feminist Issues,International Politics,War — Tuomas @ 6:23 am

Don’t read this story if you are easily disturbed. It contains violence and sexual assault triggers.

“No one wanted to believe it at first,” says Lyn Lusi, manager of the HEAL Africa hospital (formerly called the Docs Hospital) in the eastern Congo city of Goma. “When our doctors first published their results, in 2003, this was unheard of.”

Here’s the full Newsweek article from Congo.

What is there to say?

(Specializing in what?)

17 Comments »

  1. It is not often that I find the need to repeat myself in under 10 minutes with the exact same words, so I will simply link to the comment and leave it at that.

    These things are simply wrong. Simply wrong.

    Comment by Off Colfax — November 27, 2006 @ 6:32 am | Reply

  2. The first time I heard about something like this was back in high school. One of the foster kids had experienced it. I knew it was bad, but I never knew what the damage could be until I saw the kid in person.

    Normally I am against acts of retribution, but in this case I would make an exception.

    Comment by toysoldier — November 27, 2006 @ 1:41 pm | Reply

  3. It’s acts of retribution that have created the situation in the first place.

    Comment by Daran — November 27, 2006 @ 2:16 pm | Reply

  4. It’s acts of retribution that have created the situation in the first place.

    I disagree. It perpetuates it, but did not create it in the first place.

    Comment by Tuomas — November 27, 2006 @ 2:45 pm | Reply

  5. True, it would only perpetuate it. Occasionally I suffer from lapses of humanity and I respond as normal, emotionally-connected person would.

    Comment by toysoldier — November 27, 2006 @ 3:31 pm | Reply

  6. True, it would only perpetuate it. Occasionally I suffer from lapses of humanity and I respond as normal, emotionally-connected person would.

    Actually, I think it’s important to differentiate between the acts of retribution discussed here.

    The acts of retribution that are happening is that non-militia civilians are made to suffer from the acts of the other militia.

    Whether an act of retribution directly toward the militia responsible would perpetuate it is whole ‘nother issue.

    Altough it might, too.

    Comment by Tuomas — November 27, 2006 @ 3:42 pm | Reply

  7. Sweet Jesus. These poor women.

    Comment by Robert — November 27, 2006 @ 4:12 pm | Reply

  8. I disagree. It perpetuates it, but did not create it in the first place.

    I’ve no doubt it is a river with many tributaries, and it would not be possible, even in principle, to assign a “first insult” from which all ensued.

    Comment by Daran — November 27, 2006 @ 8:11 pm | Reply

  9. The acts of retribution that are happening is that non-militia civilians are made to suffer from the acts of the other militia.

    I doubt you could draw a bright line between innocent civilian and culpable malitiaman

    Comment by Daran — November 27, 2006 @ 8:14 pm | Reply

  10. toysoldier:

    Occasionally I suffer from lapses of humanity and I respond as normal, emotionally-connected person would.

    I’m sure the irony was intentional.

    I find it helpful, every now and again, to allow myself five minutes of hatred, after which I imagine myself under a shower, washing it all away.

    Comment by Daran — November 27, 2006 @ 8:18 pm | Reply

  11. I’ve no doubt it is a river with many tributaries, and it would not be possible, even in principle, to assign a “first insult” from which all ensued.

    I seriously doubt it is just about revenge. It plays a part, sure, but so do number of other, even baser desires.

    I doubt you could draw a bright line between innocent civilian and culpable malitiaman

    I’m not claiming I could, I’m claiming that the sides involved aren’t bloody likely mistaking a 5 year old girl for a militiaman.

    [edited to remove some snark]

    Comment by Tuomas — November 27, 2006 @ 8:34 pm | Reply

  12. I seriously doubt it is just about revenge. It plays a part, sure, but so do number of other, even baser desires.

    That is, the things are so far that if one side just stopped retributing it would be unlikely to have effect on the behaviour of the other side.

    Comment by Tuomas — November 27, 2006 @ 8:41 pm | Reply

  13. I’m not claiming I could, I’m claiming that the sides involved aren’t bloody likely mistaking a 5 year old girl for a militiaman.

    Oh sure, some of the victims unquestionably had no involvement as perpetrators.

    [edited to remove some snark]

    I saw that snark. 🙂

    Comment by Daran — November 30, 2006 @ 3:35 pm | Reply

  14. Oh sure, some of the victims unquestionably had no involvement as perpetrators.

    Involvement. That’s my point — retributing against people on guilt by association, instead of going after the culprits themselves. There’s more than just retribution and revenge going on there.

    I saw that snark.🙂

    Oh well. At least I tried. It did look like you were accusing me of being wannabe genocidal murderer (I doubt you…) but that could be just the passive you again. Your language sucks, at least😉.

    Comment by Tuomas — November 30, 2006 @ 3:58 pm | Reply

  15. but that could be just the passive you again.

    Yes, “you” = “one” in that context.

    Comment by Daran — November 30, 2006 @ 4:24 pm | Reply

  16. […] Tuomas’s recent post, or, more precisely, the news story to which he linked about the violent rapes of tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands of women in the Congo has been personally challenging to me on a number of levels. […]

    Pingback by The Challenge of the Congo « Creative Destruction — December 3, 2006 @ 11:49 pm | Reply

  17. […] Tuomas’s recent post, or, more precisely, the news story to which he linked about the violent rapes of tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands of women in the Congo has been personally challenging to me on a number of levels. […]

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