Creative Destruction

October 24, 2006

Do the Democrats Want to Win?

Filed under: Election 2006,Politics,Politics and Elections — Robert @ 2:37 am

The Dems look to have a shot at taking the House this year. Do they want to?

The war is going badly. It will continue to be a bad situation for quite some time – regardless of which party is in power, and regardless of their policy decisions.

North Korea remains a problem. Iran remains a problem. Neither is likely to change; both are likely to continue generating genuine incumbent-damaging news.

Genocides worldwide remain a problem. Slavery – for God’s sake, slavery – has broken out in force once more in many parts of the world.

More on that in the next post – first, the point of this one:

Do Democrats really want to win?

I know Hillary wants to win, I mean, does Joe Democrat on the street want to win? And be suddenly responsible for all this stuff?

This is an honest question, open for any Democrat out there who wants to opine. Do you guys & gals want to win?

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9 Comments »

  1. I am a proud democrat who wants us to win at many things. The war on drugs, saving our environment, a better adoption system, poverty, the list goes on and on. But the war on terror? That is not a yes or no question. Of course, we democrats don’t want terrorism, afterall, we are a government for the people. But the means in which our country, collectively has chosen to fight the war on terror is one that can’t be won. No matter what the outcome in Iraq, there will be terrorist who intend to harm, threaten, scare, terrorize, and murder. It would be like us bombing and fighting in Mexico to fight the war on drugs. No matter what the outcome there, there will always be a drug dealer on the street corner terrorizing our nation. Not all things can be won by war. This war on terror is nothing more than a war OF terror.

    Comment by Manymeez — October 24, 2006 @ 5:38 am | Reply

  2. Dude, are you serious?

    Of course I want to win. This is the difference between us and them:

    You think about “incumbent-damaging news” while I worry about who will do the best job of handling news, both good and bad, in the interests of Americans and the world at large.

    Do people like you think of anything but gaining and retaining power? Nice moral high ground.

    Comment by Frank Ricard — October 24, 2006 @ 8:32 pm | Reply

  3. You know what, you’re right. Running a government is hard, man! Who wants that shit? Let’s just let the Republicans fuck it up further! I mean, at least it’s not our fault, right? Hand me a beer, yo, and let’s get this party started!

    Comment by junk science — October 24, 2006 @ 10:47 pm | Reply

  4. I want Democratic politicians to win elections because I think that, by and large, they’ll do a better job coping with these difficult situations than Republican politicians will. This isn’t complicated.

    If your point is that the party in power will be unpopular because this crap is FUBAR and will drag down the popularity of whomever is in charge, you’re probably right. But I’m interested in real world consequences, not the popularity of Democratic politicians. I’ve noticed this trait is fairly common amongst people with views similar to mine.

    Comment by djw — October 24, 2006 @ 11:43 pm | Reply

  5. Not sure where the hostility is coming from there, Frank. It’s just a question.

    Comment by bobhayes — October 25, 2006 @ 12:57 am | Reply

  6. Two quibbles, Bob.

    One: It’s the Senate that we have an (outside, at this point) chance at taking. The way the House races are stacking up, it looks like we’ve got a Speaker named Pelosi coming, whether we like it or not. (My views on Pelosi are rather well documented.) Electoral-Vote.com is predicting a 25-seat gain for the Dems there, which puts them over the top by a 13-seat majority. With the Senate, the only hope is that two out of three take their races between McCaskill, Ford Jr., and Webb. (And if Joe switches caucus in January, all three.) All three are within the margins of error, and all three are getting the full force of the Senate committees’ purse strings.

    Second: How does the average Joe Republican feel about being responsible for “all this stuff”? Not snark, Bob, but a serious question. More and more of the GOP faithful in the blog-world are seriously reconsidering whether their party really has what it takes to make all this mess actually come up roses, so by reading between the lines, maybe the average John GOP Doe isn’t all that thrilled with “themselves” being responsible.

    For believe it or not, regardless of what we party flag-wavers on the street feel, we aren’t the ones in control. Instead, it’s the unfortunate bastages that we vote in to power that will be riding shotgun for this gravy train.

    And we all know who exactly is behind the wheel and, therefore, ultimately responsible for “all this stuff”. And it sure isn’t John Q. Democrat on the street. Nor would it be Reid or Pelosi. It’s the guy that sits behind a desk that used to carry a sign that read “The Buck Stops Here”.

    Comment by Off Colfax — October 25, 2006 @ 6:51 am | Reply

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    Comment by lindsay renee king — October 31, 2006 @ 12:40 pm | Reply

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  9. I’ll have a bit without so much spam in it, please.

    Comment by bobhayes — October 31, 2006 @ 2:50 pm | Reply


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