Creative Destruction

October 10, 2006

Link Farm & Open Thread #38

Filed under: Link Farms — Ampersand @ 3:39 am

Hey, it’s been a while, hasn’t it? But y’all still remember what an open thread is for, I’m sure. As usual, I want to emphasize that self-linking is not only allowed, but encouraged.


The F Word presents: The Carnival of Feminists!

African Women’s Blog presents The First African Women’s Carnival

100 Little Dolls presents The Carnival of Feminist Science Fiction And Fantasy Fans A Census of African-American Blogs
Not really a carnival, but it still seems worth spreading the word (or link) around. Professor Overton is asking folks to help him compile a list of blogs “in which at least 20% of the posts address issues of concern to the African-American community.”


New Blog: Our Bodies Our Blog
I’m really excited about this blog, written by one of my favorite bloggers: Christine Cupaiuolo, of the late lamented Ms Magazine blog. Make it a daily read, is my advice.

New Blog: The Silence Of Our Friends
Excellent new anti-racism blog focusing on racism among progressives and lefties.

New Blog: Feminish
Well-written blog by a Euro-feminist. There’s been a really cool series lately about a kick-ass women’s march in France in 1789 (who knew?): Start here and then follow the links at the bottom of the post for more.

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The Republic of T: How The Bush Administration, By Defunding The UN Population Fund While Pushing Abstinence Only, Harms Thousands Of African Girls And Women
This, more than any other calamity, is why I think the marginal difference between having a Democrat or a Republican in the White House matters a lot. Yes, they all suck, but the Republicans – with their seemingly endless willingness to sacrifice science, evidence and black women to the demands of their base – suck worse.

Abyss To Hope: Consent Is Not A Default Condition
Brilliant discussion of “consent,” bouncing off some of the recent “Alas” discussion.

Capitalism Bad, Tree Pretty: Critique of the “Privilege” Lists

I just don’t have much time for analysing the world through privilege. It so often leads to individualistic non-action – to someone interupting a conversation to say “but even having this conversation is a privilege.” On an individual level I think it’s important to know where you come from, to know what you’ve been given, and to analyse how you benefit from this system. I absolutely think that everyone has a responsibility to not use the privilege, and power, society gives us – over people we know. But you can’t give up privilege as an individual – you can just fight to end it by working collectively.

Creative Destruction: Do White Men Really Benefit From Privilege?

Feministe: Yes, They Do. Black Folks And The Same-Sex Marriage “Analogy”

Official A Deeper Look At “Minority Spaces”
What is a minority space? Is it the same as a “safe space”? Are feminist blogs minority spaces? These and other questions…

A few fat-positive articles from the press:

The American obsession with weight loss is unrealistic and harmful

East Bay Express: Fat! Fit? Fabulous!
Peppy article about Health At Every Size activists.

BBC: F*** Off I’m Fat!
Article about an interesting-sounding BBC documentary “by 21-stone comedian Ricky Grover” which takes a fat-activist perspective.

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Fatshadow: I’ve Been Thinking A Lot About The Intersection Of Fat And Disability

Feminist Law Professors: Misogyny Runs Amok In Unregulated Small Courts

A mother of four… went to court… seeking an order of protection against her husband, who the police said had choked her, kicked her in the stomach and threatened to kill her. The justice, Donald R. Roberts, a former state trooper with a high school diploma, not only refused, according to state officials, but later told the court clerk, “Every woman needs a good pounding every now and then.”

Body Impolitic: “Little Miss Sunshine,” Beauty Pageants, And The Sexual Exploitation Of Children

Pandagon: Right-Wing Censorship Follies!
First, a schoolteacher is fired for bringing children on a class trip to an art museum (scary nudes)! And a PBS Sprout actress is fired by the “Comcast” owned network because she appeared seven years ago in a couple of parodies of abstinence-only education. Oh, and some Fundy mom wants Harry Potter removed from school libraries because it’s too witchy. Plus, Republican Senate candidate Katherine Harris says that her opponent isn’t qualified to be in the Senate because he’s not Christian enough, which is her way of saying that only right-wingers can be real Christians.

Whosedaughter: How Anonymous Donor Conception Harms Donor Conceived Children

Moderately Insane: An Analysis Of Oregon’s Rape Law
Lawyer (and “Alas” reader) Sailorman examines Oregon’s rape law and finds that it is ridden with loopholes for rapists. See also his follow-up post, asking for suggestions for how it should be rewritten.

Bitch | Lab: How Changing Expectations For Marriage (Among Other Factors) Increased The Divorce Rate

TMP Cafe: How Democrats can win without the Southern states.

Republicans Are Hoping Sick, Hateful Appeals To Homophobia Will Save Them From The Foley Scandal
Here, here, here, here, here, and here. As Equality Loudoun, in an excellent post, writes, “we’re getting a good idea of what’s wrong with the moral compass of the anti-gay right. They don’t have one.”

The Republic Of T has many more related links. And see also this related, excellent post…

Box Turtle Bulletin: Homo-Hating Christians Distort Social Science To Claim That Gay Men Are A Danger To Boys
Beautiful example of someone doing the research to debunk the hateful right-wing lies. Curtsy: Pandagon.

Think Progress: Afghanistan Five Years Later

Reappropriate: On Frustration With Dealing With White Liberals

What’s frustrating is that this fanatic adherence to superficial tolerance is almost as close-minded as the most fervent KKK member; so desperately are these Whites afraid of being labelled a racist that even suggesting an open discussion on race terrifies and frustrates them.

Echidne: On The Amish Massacre, And On Hating Girls And Women

Effect Measure: The Amish’s Rational Response To Mass Murder

Their reaction was extraordinary and deserves the praise it receives. At the same time, though, it is a damning indictment of the rest of us, that we should see this perfectly rational act as so unusual.

Title IX Blog: There Should Be Paternity Leave For College Football Players

Molly Saves The Day: A Feminist Reading Of Disney’s The Little Mermaid

Racialicious: Color Blind Casting Benefits Non-White Actor!
It’s sort of a “man bites dog” story.

Dr. Marc Lamont Hill: The Ten Most Overrated White People

Let’s Talk Babies: Elective C-Sections Linked With Increased Infant Mortality
But at least some hospitals made more money.

Womens ENews: The Debate Over Susan B. Anthony’s Anti-Abortion Opinions

Ballastexistenz: Regarding “I’d Rather Die Than Be A _____!”

Barbara Ehrenreich: Could You Afford To Be Poor?

Boston Review: Six Ways To Reform Democracy

Reappropriate: Free Yunjim Kim!

Study Finds Daily Show As Substantive As Network News

“Interestingly, the average amounts of video and audio substance in the broadcast network news stories were not significantly different than the average amounts of visual and audio substance in The Daily Show with Jon Stewart stories about the presidential election,” Fox writes in the study. (Curtsy: Republic of T).



  1. The East Bay Express article indirectly quotes Michael Fumento as saying that Robert Atkins was obese when he dropped dead of a heart attack. Sleazy. Atkins died from head trauma after slipping on ice, and these pictures were taken two months before his death.

    Comment by Brandon Berg — October 10, 2006 @ 10:22 pm | Reply

  2. This appears to be a matter of debate.

    Comment by Daran — October 11, 2006 @ 12:20 am | Reply

  3. Whatever the (not conclusively known) condition of Atkins’ circulatory system at the time of his death, he died from a fall, and any claims that the fall may have been caused by a heart attack are purely speculative. And the pictures seem to support the claim that his obesity at death was caused by weight gain while he was in the coma.

    And what’s the deal with quoting Michael Fumento in a pro-fat article, anyway? He’s stridently anti-obseity, and his complaint about the diet industry is that they sell easy answers that don’t work, not that they promote the idea that obesity is bad.

    Comment by Brandon Berg — October 11, 2006 @ 7:21 pm | Reply

  4. I’ve updated my site

    It now contains the text of the flyer I’ve been handing out all over Massachusetts for the past few weeks. Let me know what you think, and if you want to continue the discussion we had been having about the ethics of same-sex conception, that would be great. You all pretty much abandoned it after just a few comments, and never responded to my answers. How about starting again right here?

    Oh, and please add my site to your blogrolls, I really need help raising awareness of the issue of same-sex conception. You folks aren’t trying to keep people ignorant of same-sex conception, are you?

    Comment by John Howard — October 14, 2006 @ 2:09 pm | Reply

  5. John, I’m as bored with your monomania as you, I’m sure, are with mine. But I don’t accuse you of trying to keep people ignorant of male oppression.

    I can’t speak for the other bloggers, but as far as I’m concerned, you’re wellcome to link to your site here. The ‘rule’ for blogrolling currently in force is that each blogger gets to add his or her top three, and yours ain’t within a mile of my top three.

    Sorry I can’t be more helpful.

    Comment by Daran — October 14, 2006 @ 2:53 pm | Reply

  6. The difference is that there are a million mens rights trolls all over the internet, but only one same-sex conception troll, that I am aware of. So me not bothering to talk about male oppression doesn’t hold back your cause one millionth as much as you not talking about same-sex conception does mine. And male oppression is nothing new nor is it something that is suddenly about to happen. The same-sex conception topic is an EMERGENCY topic, requiring immediate attention before someone attempts it. Male oppression also isn’t something that can be easily prohibted or resolved with just a little bit of discussion and legislation.

    Comment by John Howard — October 14, 2006 @ 10:08 pm | Reply

  7. The difference is that there are a million mens rights trolls all over the internet, but only one same-sex conception troll, that I am aware of.

    LOL. touché.

    But although there are a million men’s rights trolls, I’m the only liberal men’s rights troll that I’m aware of, and also the most effective one. For example, I got the author of the male privilege checklist to admit that the central concept was “flawed”. This same person – one of the most high-profile male feminists in the blogosphere – I got blogging about male victimisation in Iraq. And if I had not already thus reduced him to a puppet, I could have destroyed him at whim, by exposing his links to the hardcore pornography industry.

    I only need to forge an alliance with the Evil Belledame and the world will not be able to resist our takeover.


    Comment by Daran — October 15, 2006 @ 7:42 am | Reply

  8. Your standards for effectiveness are rather low, though I understand how triumphant it feels just to get people talking about something. I can get people talking for a post or two, but they always seem to run away from the discussion after claiming an illogical resolution, and even when they agree with me, they never take up the cause and spread the idea over the net.

    That’s how I would measure effectiveness: Have we prevented genetic engineering by getting Congress to enact an egg and sperm law? Anything else is just frustrating chatter, necessary to build support, but useless in itself?

    Do you agree that an egg and sperm law is necessary, and immediately needed to resolve the marriage debate and allocate research dollars effectively? All I ask is that you affirm that we should have such a law, so that labs cant try to conceive people from genetically modified materials and everyone is created equal, from a real mother and father. And then it would be great if you would remember this needed law next time someone asks you to name a right that same-sex couples shouldn’t have. That would be effective.

    Comment by John Howard — October 16, 2006 @ 9:56 am | Reply

  9. Your standards for effectiveness are rather low,

    Low standards are de rigueur for men’s rights trolls. But at least I’m not reduced to grovelling other people’s blogs, begging for links.

    though I understand how triumphant it feels just to get people talking about something. I can get people talking for a post or two, but they always seem to run away from the discussion

    Your problem is that you don’t have any opposition. There is no group of people who advocate that we should allow same-sex conception, hence nobody for you to engage.

    As for the rest of your post… Nope, not going to bite.

    Comment by Daran — October 16, 2006 @ 10:56 am | Reply

  10. There is no group of people who advocate that we should allow same-sex conception, hence nobody for you to engage.

    But we DO allow same-sex conception!! That’s why I am trying to wake up the people who ought to be against it that they need to engage the people who ARE doing research and who DO maintain that conception is a right of same-sex couples and that we also have to make it “safe and affordable”.

    I am not grovelling, which implies a bit of humility and fear or respect for the other person. I am asking you fools to wake up, listen to me, and spread the news that same-sex conception is being researched and claimed as a right, but is unethical and should be stopped. Not for me, but in order to have a human future, with equality and fairness and dignity. Do you see what would happen if this idea spread and we actually enacted an egg and sperm law?

    Comment by John Howard — October 16, 2006 @ 12:38 pm | Reply

  11. The problem, John, is that nobody is perceived as close enough to success to attract the attention of/concern the people who would really be very concerned if this were to occur. You’re in the position of an environmentalist saying we need good laws to prevent pollution in low earth orbit. Well, we may well need those laws, but we haven’t even got the orbital factories yet – it’s premature.

    If you want to advance your agenda, I would suggest that you table the idea of a sperm and egg law until the time is right, and instead raise awareness of what research is being done and by whom and why. “Here are photos of the lab where this scientific team is trying to make it possible to have same-sex conception” is a lot more likely to get traction with reasonable people than “sperm and egg”.

    Comment by Robert — October 16, 2006 @ 1:09 pm | Reply

  12. The other problem is that you have the political acuity and tact of a rock (“you fools”). It isn’t our job to advance your hobbyhorse, and links are not a natural right.

    Comment by Robert — October 16, 2006 @ 1:13 pm | Reply

  13. smart people don’t need to wait until someone has done something bad before they consider whether people should be allowed to do it. And they are pretty close, one researcher says “three to five years away”, and that was last year! And we are wasting so much time when we could resolve this whole thing easily, and save tons of money, by simply enacting an egg and sperm law. The PCBE recommended that Congress enact it IMMEDIATELY, not after foolish people have gotten around to blogging about it. Stop being fools, you dicks.

    Comment by John Howard — October 18, 2006 @ 8:56 pm | Reply

  14. Shoo.

    Comment by Robert — October 18, 2006 @ 9:10 pm | Reply

  15. coming (80,000 charecters)

    They punished the hedonism of the 60s and 70s by introducing AIDS:::::They pushed Africans into being promiscuous and now punish them with AIDS (it would have been used before the end of the 20th century but the gods needed/wanted to justify the existance of the virus (wild profits in this industry was “the rope”, temptation for the disfavored investor who incurred evil which limited their time). Perhaps it is an open door for fools like me who would dare test their positioning this close to The End, resulting in yet another bio-tech poison-induced corporate killing.)
    They peak the disfavored euphporically, make them homosexual then punish them with AIDS. They don’t give a fuck. They love to be vindictive and malicious. Be god-fearing.

    The gods employ the use of “ringers” to disceive the disfavored:::
    A significant portion of the patients in any health care setting (numbers based on region) are the favored (clones) who were told to report non-existant symptoms FOR POSITIONING’S SAKE!!! When they use examples expect they are trying to disceive you with this “ringer” tactic.

    The first steps towards repairing your relationship with the gods is to:::::::::
    1. Understand they instruct the computer to “role play” in an attempt to confuse you:::it’s ALWAYS the computer addressing you. Their goal is to cost you additional YEARS of your life by using this tactic to confuse you. Always be aware of this tactic and eventually they will give up and allow this step to be taken.
    2. Differentiate between your thoughts and when they are thinking through you.
    3. Be resigned to be a good person who will never engage in evil again even if asked and they will eventually stop trying to corrupt you, allowing this very big step to be taken.
    4. Decide that you are going to follow the path, fix your relationship with the gods be devoted to your new life.

    Anything that emerged since the advent of television and “fast food” should be be distrusted by the disfavored and viewed as tools of the gods designed to attack us.
    They gods (Counsel/Management Team/ruling species) have deteriorated life on earth precipitously in the last 40 years, from a godless society to abortion to pornography, widespread drug use and widespread casual (gay) sex, bi-racial children, single-parent households, latchkey kids and the masculinization of women (and hence (full) women’s prisons, participatory sports, etc. Up until the past four decades it was the men who filled the prisons, the men who made trouble, the men who caused problems, and it’s because theirs is the gender with disfavor. Too many men still sign on to the “good ‘ole boy’s club” paternalistic type of mentality, an archaic dumping ground now designated for the grossly disfavored, and it is used to compel them to feel superior to women when just the opposite is true.)
    Women are favored, are the element of decency, and as they become more like the men the society becomes more disfavored, goes downhill, as we are witnessing.
    There was a time, not so long ago, when no self-respecting woman would EVER set foot in a bar or a gambling hall. The only women who were in those type of establishments were of questionable morals, and there were far fewer of them than there are today.
    Tabloids offer details on celebrities lives. Celebrities are ALL clones. In fact they utilize multiple clones for important events (noteworthy movies, spotlight sporting events, etc.)
    Every one of them are clones, and all these incidents reported in the tabloids are staged::The gods tell these clone celebrities to commit their offense and offer it as temptation to the public. Tabloids are tagetted specifically to women, and the gods offer this for a reason:::because it hurts women, and they incurr evil because they are enjoying the misery of others.

    Decent women don’t engage in these pursuits. 12/21 15:17:40
    Beer is a corruptor and a dumping ground 4 men 12/21 15:09:19
    professional sports, video games, car racing/fixing up cars, pornography, drinking, gambling, etc.
    Decent women don’t engage in these pursuits.
    In the last 40-50 years the gods have engaged in a process which masculinized women, including casual sex, partying, partifcipatory sports and women’s prisons.

    The Biblical account of Noah’s flood was regional to the disfavored Mediterrean (water levels lowered because of the ice age, land bridge at Straight of Gibralter “broke” through, habitation ocurred at seaside. Of course the gods desire maximum effect during these events so expect that they beemed in trillions of gallons into the Mediterreanean basin to enhance this event, especially in the east where effect would have been lessened.), peoples whom the gods scapegoatted when they pushed them into the evil that justified the flood, behavior similar to that which we are witnessing today. Because they have leveled the playing field for all people (purebloods and mongrels) in the decades prior to the 21st century is a clue they will end globally this time (westernization, materialism, immigration/interracial, homosexual, access to disturbing media, desensitization, indecency, etc).

    So much of this mind poisoning social “progressiveness” was initiated in California. In a couple of decades it pervaded east into the heartland::::::Gay acceptance/marriage, bi-racial acceptance, casual drug use/sex, popularized with cable TV, etc. So many things weren’t present in the heartland decades ago, things that cable TV introduced.
    Because they are favored. Contrary to appearances, contrary to popular perception their favor got them extra time. In California the gods hurt the disfavored with this abuse right off the bat.
    California is a favored land. It is the land of the gods, a fruitful bounty, and when the disfavored invade, as they did during the gold rush, the gods strike back.
    The gods pushed the 49ers into coming, told others, for only the disfavored are misled this way.
    Eventually they scapegoatted these disfavored’s descendants when the gods exported their wicked, sick sub-cultures to the rest of the nation. One day they will punish these descendants.
    California subducts first. And those who have gone will get less time.
    Expect similar reverse positioning in the Jesus issue.
    This is typical of the positioning of the gods. They LOVE ironic theater such as this.
    It’s crucial that you begin to think correctly.
    There is no such thing as a Christian god and there never was. Be god-fearing.

    Oakland is the final 20th century professional sports-based bastion of institutionalized racism in California.
    Oakland is the last city in California which has a major sports complex on the edge of the ghetto. Staples Center replaced the LAForum in Inglewood and PacBellPark replaced Candlestick in BayView/Hunter’sPoint. California is favored and the gods instructed these facilities be constructed to prey on disfavored blacks.
    Homeless toddlers running around shelter in racist Oakland.

    The gods use the United States to hurt the disfavored, at home and abroad, for it is the goal of redwhite&blue:::
    20th century welfare hurt the black community very, very badly. There was too many abuses of the system and its legacy is still felt today.
    There will come a time that will be a CRUCIAL moment in the history of black america (whether it is a critical time for everybody remains to be seen). When that era arrives the gods will instruct the United States to pay black people reparations, and it may be as much as a million dollars for every man, woman and child.
    Refuse it. This is an act of preditation. The gods hate Africans, evident by the sorry state of the people in the United States and back in the motherland. This may ba a choice between going and the money. Understand how the gods use greed and materialism against you (clues:::80s greedy environment, late 90s increase in NYSE):::::Blacks wallow in materialism, incurring evil and costing themselves time. And when their time DOES come they will be granted reparations immediately prior, further limiting the number of Africans who ascend.
    The day IS coming when they will grant reparations, and the amount will be staggering, another tactic to ensure you fail in the quest to ascend into heaven. And many of the disfavored blacks will blow it all; the gods will push them into spending it friviously or losing it in their casinos.

    We may all be “clones” for they have suggested they colonized our planet with genetically engineered individuals. Geographic clues like Italy and Lake Michigan suggest artificiality.
    Is Earth an evolved source planet or a created host planet? Was life and our Planet Earth really created in 6 days? Never doubt their power or ability::::::::They shared with me a story when they presented Pharrohs with mountains of gold, much to their amazement. This is the kind of ironic theater they enjoy, an example of unique favors they grant to the special and worthless value of what we deem precious.
    You can’t trust their scientists or any of their people in professional roles. Just as they beemed earth out to create the Lake Michigan basin so could they have beemed in fossils and told them to dig in a specific place. (This issue was a step contributing to society’s breakdown into godlessness.)

    There are many ways they can play this, for the door is open. I suspect the script is written, but the following is one idea they floated to me a couple of years ago::::
    They may one day send the message, creating desperation:::
    Have their redwhite&blue (favored) clones shut down their corporations, stop their economic activity, be it farming, canning, power production, etc. and close up shop.
    This would leave the few disfavored companies (Atlanta) to fulfill the demand, unless they instruct them to pull out as well.
    They ARE all clones.
    They suggested they’d beem out all animals, be it livestock, etc., ensuring a heightened level of desperation. The resulting chaos would likley initiate the Apocalypse.
    People shouldn’t be doing business with the favored.
    (Atlanta is a very disfavored city and the gods instructed disfavored companies to locate there; Braves greatness of last 20 YEARS!!!! preditory on this very disfavored city (baseball is a tool of the gods used to prey on the disfavored).
    They threatened they would maintain a hurricane at category 5 even as far inland as Atlanta to destroy the city for the second time.)

    Comment by Fat girls network — February 20, 2007 @ 5:52 pm | Reply

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