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	<title>Comments on: The Hot 100 &#8211; Radically Redefining &#8220;Hot&#8221; To Mean&#8230;Hot</title>
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		<title>By: Off Colfax</title>
		<link>http://creativedestruction.wordpress.com/2006/06/07/the-hot-100-radically-redefining-hot-to-meanhot/#comment-3422</link>
		<dc:creator>Off Colfax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 06:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lies! All lies!

Okay, fine. It was with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.proteinwisdom.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeff Goldstein&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s armadillo. But only once. We were both extremely drunk and the little guy had stolen all of Jeff&#039;s Percoset. One thing led to another and...

Well, I&#039;ll leave to your imaginations all of the gory details of liasons with fictional stuffed armored beasts on the way back from the taxidermist.

And Lisa, should you ever find yourself in the Denver area (And should you ever come by this site again... Hmm. My optimism begins to war with my pessimism, suddenly. And my pessimism has much more practice.), feel free to drop me an email. I&#039;ll cook until half the neighborhood is pounding down the door. (Note to self: Get Greatnanna&#039;s down-bayou style recipes from Dad. Use bribery and/or base groveling if required.) And you will see that I absolutely do not live in a correctional facility. (For one thing, most of my comments are in the wee hours of the morning, Robert!)

And lemming porn? Ugh, Robert. You surely have no taste. Everyone knows that transgendered meerkat porn is all the rage these da... Ummm, never mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lies! All lies!</p>
<p>Okay, fine. It was with <a href="http://www.proteinwisdom.com/" rel="nofollow">Jeff Goldstein</a>&#8217;s armadillo. But only once. We were both extremely drunk and the little guy had stolen all of Jeff&#8217;s Percoset. One thing led to another and&#8230;</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;ll leave to your imaginations all of the gory details of liasons with fictional stuffed armored beasts on the way back from the taxidermist.</p>
<p>And Lisa, should you ever find yourself in the Denver area (And should you ever come by this site again&#8230; Hmm. My optimism begins to war with my pessimism, suddenly. And my pessimism has much more practice.), feel free to drop me an email. I&#8217;ll cook until half the neighborhood is pounding down the door. (Note to self: Get Greatnanna&#8217;s down-bayou style recipes from Dad. Use bribery and/or base groveling if required.) And you will see that I absolutely do not live in a correctional facility. (For one thing, most of my comments are in the wee hours of the morning, Robert!)</p>
<p>And lemming porn? Ugh, Robert. You surely have no taste. Everyone knows that transgendered meerkat porn is all the rage these da&#8230; Ummm, never mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://creativedestruction.wordpress.com/2006/06/07/the-hot-100-radically-redefining-hot-to-meanhot/#comment-3415</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa, you should be advised that Off Colfax is currently serving nine concurrent life sentences in the Colorado State Penitentiary for repeated sexual abuse of tiny mammals. We let him post here (via the penitentiary library&#039;s one online PC) because one of the other bloggers here is very big on the whole rehab-the-criminals thing. 

The rest of us are watching him with a suspicious eye, secretly convinced that the lemming porn posts are only moments away. 

In other words, he only wants you for access to the critters.

The sick SOB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa, you should be advised that Off Colfax is currently serving nine concurrent life sentences in the Colorado State Penitentiary for repeated sexual abuse of tiny mammals. We let him post here (via the penitentiary library&#8217;s one online PC) because one of the other bloggers here is very big on the whole rehab-the-criminals thing. </p>
<p>The rest of us are watching him with a suspicious eye, secretly convinced that the lemming porn posts are only moments away. </p>
<p>In other words, he only wants you for access to the critters.</p>
<p>The sick SOB.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://creativedestruction.wordpress.com/2006/06/07/the-hot-100-radically-redefining-hot-to-meanhot/#comment-3414</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Off Colfax, thank you so much for the kind words! I was just doing a Google search for something and found this page. You really made my night! And yes, I adore guys that cook. My dinners are usually cereal or a sandwich as once I finish my real job and then get home and feed five dogs, I have no energy to get over a stove to cook just for me. So again, THANKS! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Off Colfax, thank you so much for the kind words! I was just doing a Google search for something and found this page. You really made my night! And yes, I adore guys that cook. My dinners are usually cereal or a sandwich as once I finish my real job and then get home and feed five dogs, I have no energy to get over a stove to cook just for me. So again, THANKS! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 03:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the classical cultures of Greece and Rome, youth = beauty. In Persian culture, both ancient and modern, same thing. 

I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d characterize it as a pathology; more common sense for reproductive strategy, under survival conditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the classical cultures of Greece and Rome, youth = beauty. In Persian culture, both ancient and modern, same thing. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d characterize it as a pathology; more common sense for reproductive strategy, under survival conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: Ampersand</title>
		<link>http://creativedestruction.wordpress.com/2006/06/07/the-hot-100-radically-redefining-hot-to-meanhot/#comment-2236</link>
		<dc:creator>Ampersand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 03:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t a clue how much the age/beauty connection varies from culture to culture. Maybe it&#039;s basically the same everywhere; maybe it varies. Obviously, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s totally unique to our culture.

You&#039;re assuming that when I said &quot;in our culture&quot; I meant &quot;this is a pathology unique to our culture,&quot; when in fact I meant &quot;in our culture, which is the only one I know enough to speak about.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t a clue how much the age/beauty connection varies from culture to culture. Maybe it&#8217;s basically the same everywhere; maybe it varies. Obviously, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s totally unique to our culture.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re assuming that when I said &#8220;in our culture&#8221; I meant &#8220;this is a pathology unique to our culture,&#8221; when in fact I meant &#8220;in our culture, which is the only one I know enough to speak about.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Berg</title>
		<link>http://creativedestruction.wordpress.com/2006/06/07/the-hot-100-radically-redefining-hot-to-meanhot/#comment-2234</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;In what cultures is this not the case?&lt;/i&gt;

That was a serious question, by the way. Feminists like to talk about the fact that younger women are generally considered prettier than older women as if it were some sort of pathology unique to our culture. But to the best of my knowledge this is universal, and I very strongly suspect that it has a biological basis. Are there any examples of cultures in which this isn&#039;t the case?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In what cultures is this not the case?</i></p>
<p>That was a serious question, by the way. Feminists like to talk about the fact that younger women are generally considered prettier than older women as if it were some sort of pathology unique to our culture. But to the best of my knowledge this is universal, and I very strongly suspect that it has a biological basis. Are there any examples of cultures in which this isn&#8217;t the case?</p>
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		<title>By: Off Colfax</title>
		<link>http://creativedestruction.wordpress.com/2006/06/07/the-hot-100-radically-redefining-hot-to-meanhot/#comment-2206</link>
		<dc:creator>Off Colfax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 08:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Le sigh...&lt;/i&gt; And yet again, I&#039;m hoping for (Pardon the weak paraphrase.) &quot;an editus for the rest of us.&quot;

As to the Hot 100 list, I must say that I barely made it through the first page so far, but my babe-o-meter only dinged 5 times, even including the blurbs attached to the photos. However, it went absolutely off the scale when I got down to Lisa Scarbrough.

The rest of them seem to be more about the progressive scene and awareness raising. Yet Lisa Scarbrough put her assets where her mouth is. And not for the standard causes, but for abused and neglected animals.

Now that&#039;s REALLY hot! I wonder if she likes guys that can cook... I finally figured out the Insta-Chicken recipe, you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Le sigh&#8230;</i> And yet again, I&#8217;m hoping for (Pardon the weak paraphrase.) &#8220;an editus for the rest of us.&#8221;</p>
<p>As to the Hot 100 list, I must say that I barely made it through the first page so far, but my babe-o-meter only dinged 5 times, even including the blurbs attached to the photos. However, it went absolutely off the scale when I got down to Lisa Scarbrough.</p>
<p>The rest of them seem to be more about the progressive scene and awareness raising. Yet Lisa Scarbrough put her assets where her mouth is. And not for the standard causes, but for abused and neglected animals.</p>
<p>Now that&#8217;s REALLY hot! I wonder if she likes guys that can cook&#8230; I finally figured out the Insta-Chicken recipe, you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon Berg</title>
		<link>http://creativedestruction.wordpress.com/2006/06/07/the-hot-100-radically-redefining-hot-to-meanhot/#comment-2205</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 07:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;In our culture “pretty” and “young” have a huge crossover in women.&lt;/i&gt;

In what cultures is this not the case?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In our culture “pretty” and “young” have a huge crossover in women.</i></p>
<p>In what cultures is this not the case?</p>
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		<title>By: John Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 22:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on now, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maximonline.com/slideshows/index.aspx?imgCollectId=94&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link to it&lt;/a&gt;, for journalism&#039;s sake.  And I noticed a little blurb that said &quot;Read up on how to land a brainy babe.&quot;  Here she is:
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on now, <a href="http://www.maximonline.com/slideshows/index.aspx?imgCollectId=94" rel="nofollow">link to it</a>, for journalism&#8217;s sake.  And I noticed a little blurb that said &#8220;Read up on how to land a brainy babe.&#8221;  Here she is:</p>
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		<title>By: Tuomas</title>
		<link>http://creativedestruction.wordpress.com/2006/06/07/the-hot-100-radically-redefining-hot-to-meanhot/#comment-2199</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(to add: the original Maxim version they are spoofing isn&#039;t, to my knowledge, all-American.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(to add: the original Maxim version they are spoofing isn&#8217;t, to my knowledge, all-American.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tuomas</title>
		<link>http://creativedestruction.wordpress.com/2006/06/07/the-hot-100-radically-redefining-hot-to-meanhot/#comment-2198</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 21:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am partly at fault here, my comment didn&#039;t address anything but looks. But it is somewhat problematic argument, as there could be the implication that I think these women only got nominated due to hotness (physical).

What I might raise now is the ageist argument -- why must the REALLY hot 100 be about &lt;i&gt;young&lt;/i&gt; women?

Everyone is also American (skimmed, might be wrong). I thought lefty feminists were internationalists?

I find the comparison on accessibility of the intellect of Amanda and Jeff G eerily accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am partly at fault here, my comment didn&#8217;t address anything but looks. But it is somewhat problematic argument, as there could be the implication that I think these women only got nominated due to hotness (physical).</p>
<p>What I might raise now is the ageist argument &#8212; why must the REALLY hot 100 be about <i>young</i> women?</p>
<p>Everyone is also American (skimmed, might be wrong). I thought lefty feminists were internationalists?</p>
<p>I find the comparison on accessibility of the intellect of Amanda and Jeff G eerily accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: bobhayes</title>
		<link>http://creativedestruction.wordpress.com/2006/06/07/the-hot-100-radically-redefining-hot-to-meanhot/#comment-2194</link>
		<dc:creator>bobhayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 20:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops; you edited your comment and now my response doesn&#039;t make any sense. (Clever bastard, you are.)

I didn&#039;t discuss nothing but appearances; my first substantive comment concerns the monotonicity of the list&#039;s politics. So nyah.

My motives in this post were 20% baiting, 80% noticing the irony of an anti-lookist agenda being completely obviated by the total lookism of the participants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops; you edited your comment and now my response doesn&#8217;t make any sense. (Clever bastard, you are.)</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t discuss nothing but appearances; my first substantive comment concerns the monotonicity of the list&#8217;s politics. So nyah.</p>
<p>My motives in this post were 20% baiting, 80% noticing the irony of an anti-lookist agenda being completely obviated by the total lookism of the participants.</p>
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		<title>By: bobhayes</title>
		<link>http://creativedestruction.wordpress.com/2006/06/07/the-hot-100-radically-redefining-hot-to-meanhot/#comment-2193</link>
		<dc:creator>bobhayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 20:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please. If the list is explicitly about something other than appearance, then they should call it the &quot;Smart 100&quot;. Naming it as they have, they are manifestly riffing on appearance issues - but they then fall prey to the same biases and conventions that they would decry in the larger culture.

I wouldn&#039;t argue that Amanda isn&#039;t smart; it&#039;s the &quot;world-class&quot; that amuses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please. If the list is explicitly about something other than appearance, then they should call it the &#8220;Smart 100&#8243;. Naming it as they have, they are manifestly riffing on appearance issues &#8211; but they then fall prey to the same biases and conventions that they would decry in the larger culture.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t argue that Amanda isn&#8217;t smart; it&#8217;s the &#8220;world-class&#8221; that amuses.</p>
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		<title>By: Ampersand</title>
		<link>http://creativedestruction.wordpress.com/2006/06/07/the-hot-100-radically-redefining-hot-to-meanhot/#comment-2192</link>
		<dc:creator>Ampersand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 20:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda is very smart - much smarter than most bloggers, right or left - but her approach to blogging isn&#039;t especially accessible to those who disagree with her. It&#039;s similar to how most right-wingers think the Protein Wisdom guy is smart, while most left-wingers think he&#039;s an idiot.

Looking through the list, most of the people there are conventionally attractive, but no more so than any group of mostly young, activist leaders. The list mainly has a bias towards the young, and in our culture &quot;pretty&quot; and &quot;young&quot; have a huge crossover in women; plus, due to subconscious discrimination, the conventionally attractive in all fields are more likely to become leaders; and, of course, it&#039;s safe to assume that most of these folks, when asked to send in a photo of themselves, sent a photo in which they looked nice.

(By the way, I will be declining to discuss any particular examples, for obvious reasons).

&lt;em&gt;[Edited to remove an unfair comment about conservatives, and to add:]&lt;/em&gt;

For the record, I think responding to a list like this by trying to discuss nothing but appearances is more than a little disturbing. Probably it was a mistake for me to respond to it all; I can&#039;t help but suspect that you had, perhaps, a bit of mischievous baiting somewhere in the back of your mind when you wrote this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda is very smart &#8211; much smarter than most bloggers, right or left &#8211; but her approach to blogging isn&#8217;t especially accessible to those who disagree with her. It&#8217;s similar to how most right-wingers think the Protein Wisdom guy is smart, while most left-wingers think he&#8217;s an idiot.</p>
<p>Looking through the list, most of the people there are conventionally attractive, but no more so than any group of mostly young, activist leaders. The list mainly has a bias towards the young, and in our culture &#8220;pretty&#8221; and &#8220;young&#8221; have a huge crossover in women; plus, due to subconscious discrimination, the conventionally attractive in all fields are more likely to become leaders; and, of course, it&#8217;s safe to assume that most of these folks, when asked to send in a photo of themselves, sent a photo in which they looked nice.</p>
<p>(By the way, I will be declining to discuss any particular examples, for obvious reasons).</p>
<p><em>[Edited to remove an unfair comment about conservatives, and to add:]</em></p>
<p>For the record, I think responding to a list like this by trying to discuss nothing but appearances is more than a little disturbing. Probably it was a mistake for me to respond to it all; I can&#8217;t help but suspect that you had, perhaps, a bit of mischievous baiting somewhere in the back of your mind when you wrote this post.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuomas</title>
		<link>http://creativedestruction.wordpress.com/2006/06/07/the-hot-100-radically-redefining-hot-to-meanhot/#comment-2181</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
Only…I&#039;ve reviewed their nominations to date (strictly in the interests of online journalism) and…well…these gals are all pretty hot. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, quite curious, isn&#039;t it?

Public relations, I suspect (her politics are... awful... but the hotness... critical brain melting... hooray feminism!)</description>
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Only…I&#8217;ve reviewed their nominations to date (strictly in the interests of online journalism) and…well…these gals are all pretty hot.
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<p>Yes, quite curious, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Public relations, I suspect (her politics are&#8230; awful&#8230; but the hotness&#8230; critical brain melting&#8230; hooray feminism!)</p>
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		<title>By: bobhayes</title>
		<link>http://creativedestruction.wordpress.com/2006/06/07/the-hot-100-radically-redefining-hot-to-meanhot/#comment-2180</link>
		<dc:creator>bobhayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 18:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(And, not to be excessively snarky, I have to wonder about whoever nominated &lt;a href=&quot;http://therealhot100.org/meet_the_nominees/meet_the_nominees/meet_the_nominees_8.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amanda Marcotte&lt;/a&gt; as having a &quot;world-class intellect&quot;. On Phobos, maybe.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(And, not to be excessively snarky, I have to wonder about whoever nominated <a href="http://therealhot100.org/meet_the_nominees/meet_the_nominees/meet_the_nominees_8.html" rel="nofollow">Amanda Marcotte</a> as having a &quot;world-class intellect&quot;. On Phobos, maybe.)</p>
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