Comments on: Book Review: Self-Made Man, by Norah Vincent

By: Cera

Cera — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:55:16 +0000

If I can point out, getting a guy off during a lap dance isn’t really in the stripper’s best interests, either — once they’ve blown their wad, you’re not getting any more money off of them. You want to keep them erect and paying for more, thinking they’re *going* to get to have an orgasm, and trying hard not to let them.

Which is really, when you think about it, far more fucked up than just ejaculating in your pants.

By: mythago

mythago — Fri, 19 May 2006 22:46:43 +0000

Brutus, Norah Vincent is a pundit who markets herself as a socially conservative lesbian.

By: Adam Gurri

Adam Gurri — Wed, 17 May 2006 18:35:12 +0000

These things are so silly. Real studies on these things can be done in a way that yields information which can actually be used for the sake of discussion.

These documentaries or non-fiction pieces which cast the author as the main character serve no other purpose than to further one person’s career, and give ammunition to some ideological cannon or other.

By: mythago

mythago — Wed, 17 May 2006 04:34:38 +0000

From guys I know who get lap dances regularly, getting off in your pants is not really the goal. Yes, it’s paying for dry-humping, but they aren’t interested in getting that far. (For one thing, you have to go clean up and then what’s the point in staying in the bar?)

By: Brutus

Brutus — Wed, 17 May 2006 03:42:43 +0000

I wonder what Norah Vincent’s background is. If she was a women’s studies major, I’d expect her to avoid the traps you’ve identified and write a more academically balanced and insightful account. If she’s was communications major turned journalist turned author, I’d expect a fairly slipshod approach aimed at selling copies through exageration and thoughtless baiting of stereotypes.

By: Off Colfax

Off Colfax — Wed, 17 May 2006 03:09:44 +0000

I used to go to strip clubs. Back in the day, I was young, dumb, and full of… Well, you get the idea.

But I must say that I never squicked in my jock. My stamina’s a lot better than that.

This is the Y-Chromosome of OC, signing off. We now return to our regularly scheduled parenthetical comments. (Oh great. NOW I can talk… Sheeesh.)

By: Robert

Robert — Wed, 17 May 2006 02:37:39 +0000

As an aside, before reading this book I had no idea that men are actually supposed to ejaculate inside their pants during lap dances.

OK, first: Ewww! Thank you for squicking.

Second, that’s news to me. My impression has always been that strip clubs were there to let guys get worked up at seeing really hot women, and then they’d leave the club and have sex with the less-hot women they had access to (somtimes prostitutes, sometimes not).

Methinks Vincent is over-generalizing (perhaps understandably) from the testimony of her new buddies.